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作者: miemiemk13 时间: 2023-8-20 13:00 标题: RetroTINK要出新品了

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RetroTINK-4K

2023下半年直接现货？各位道友怎么看

目前公布的信息除了价格还有什么喷点

https://www.retrotink.com/post/introducing-the-retrotink-4k

It's time we put together a post about the upcoming TINK-4K, so that you have all the latest and most accurate information. This page will be updated as necessary.

Where, When and How Much?

Currently targeting a late-2023 release. The exact price is to be determined since we are still exploring multiple options on how to best source the FPGA. Best guidance is to budget $1,000 and we hope you will be pleasantly surprised when the actual price is determined.

A sale date will be posted on Twitter and the RetroTINK website as soon as we are ready. No pre-orders: units will be sold and shipped from inventory.

What Inputs are Supported?

We've designed the RT4K to accept virtually all retro video sources to best serve everyone's unique requirements. On the back, we have component, HD-15 (VGA), and HDMI inputs plus a TOSLINK receiver for optical audio.

The SCART port lives on the side, and the front has a S-video and composite jack hidden behind a sliding door.

The RT4K inputs are super flexible. Both the HD-15 and SCART inputs can accept any analog format (with the exception of RGBHV for SCART), opening up options for streamlining your switching setup.

We've also tried hard to make the RT4K accept signals from non-mainstream console sources such as PCs and arcade boards. There are currently settings for standard consumer video (240p/288, 480i/576i, 480p/576p, 720p, 1080i, 1080p) as well as retro PCs (EGA/DOS 70 Hz, VGA, SVGA, XGA, UXGA). Custom profiles with the correct sampling and cropping can be quickly set up for sources that do not yet have built-in definitions using the menu.

The HDMI inputs can accept virtually any custom resolution and frame rate within the maximum bandwidth of the receiver. This means that the RT4K will fully support off-spec sources, such as MiSTer DirectVideo.

What Does it Output?

The primary output of the RT4K is, of course, 4K60 (3840 x 2160, 60 Hz). Other standard built-in modes include 1080p, 1440p and 480p. If you need a custom resolution, drop a modeline text file on to the SD card and they'll automatically appear in the menu!

The RT4K HDMI 2.0 transmitter also supports high frame rate outputs (with some input side limitations) for advanced users.

Like the TINK-5X, the 4K is a minimal lag device with the same Frame Lock and Gen Lock modes. Triple buffering is also here to eliminate drop outs during resolution changes.

How Does it Scale?

In short? Whatever you want. The RT4K scaling engine lets you scale/crop your source precisely to your individual specifications. Aspect ratio correction and filtering mode (sharp pixel, bilinear, etc.) are adjustable. Or use a free-scaling mode to just define the exact pixel numbers you need. At 4K resolution, you can perform perfect integer scaling for many common resolutions with perfectly sharp pixels, if you prefer that versus a CRT look. Even non-integer scales look great with bilinear sharp filtering that maintains a crisp look. And yes, you can get optimal sampling at perfect 4:3 aspect ratios at the same time! The RT4K can automatically perform the necessary PAR transforms for you as well.

Don't worry if this sounds like too much work, by default, most sources will automatically be centered and cropped correctly. The RT4K also has modes to automatically expand/shrink the image while keeping the correct proportions to make adjustments quick and easy.

CRT (and LCD) Effects!

The TINK-4K will have advanced CRT simulation options including customizable scanlines, phosphor masks, and even beam mis-convergence. For those of you with HDR OLEDs, the RT4K has the necessary resources to output true, Rec. 709 to Rec. 2020 color-corrected HDR output that really bridges the gap between digital displays and CRTs.

We're looking forward to seeing the community having fun coming up with and sharing CRT profiles (more on that below)!

Profiles!

Save, download and share up to 65,536 profiles on to the SD card. A profile can be set to automatically load on power up or be assigned to a remote control button for quick-access. Enjoy!

We Love (really!) SCART

One of the biggest complaints against SCART has been "loose" connections. Unfortunately, today's SCART gear just isn't as a good as the original European parts from yesteryear. That's just a fact, and we can't change that.

However, we can try to add our own improvements. The RT4K has PCB-mounted threaded screw holes flanking the SCART connector. Hopefully this will allow the community to build after-market SCART heads and attachments that are just as secure as HD-15 connectors.

As much as we joke at hating SCART, we recognize and appreciate its role in history and in your setup.

The Remote

The RT4K will include a premium, fully custom remote with buttons that allow you to quickly access key settings. If you lose it, a universal remote should be able to cover you and still give you access to key functions.

Other Common Questions

Does it work with MiSTer/Analogue - Yes! The MiSTer direct video mode works great with the RT4K. Analogue consoles may require a little more adjustment, but we expect pre-made profiles to appear in no time.

Rotation -- theoretically possible, but not planned for release.

Smoothing -- same as above.

Movies -- the goal of the TINK products has always been games and games first, but expect to see developments for options to enhance video playback and the movie experience.

Control/Integration -- the RT4K has facilities for control via the HD-15 as well as USB ports. We are planning on some sort of command interface, to be developed post launch.

Does it take TTL sync -- yes on the HD15. SCART port is protected against TTL damage, but would recommend caution as always.

Power -- USB-C 5V 2A.

Is it 4:4:4 -- The RT4K is exclusively RGB444 with an internal deep color processing pipeline and can output deep color HDMI to compatible displays. Sources that are not natively RGB444 (such as composite video) are converted to RGB444 at the front-end.

Is the TINK-5X dead -- we still plan on supporting the TINK-5X and will continue to share development across the two platforms as much as possible. Keep in mind though, that we are still very much a 1-person team

Other Cool Stuff

The TINK-4K case is customizable (but don't tell our industrial designer). We're looking forward to the community making replacement parts for the top logo insert (E) and the front cap (C) and sliding door (D). Make 3D printed parts with your own logo and colors!

作者: miemiemk13 时间: 2023-8-20 13:01

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貌似发错区了，不好意思麻烦版主转到怀旧区～

作者: 狂涂 时间: 2023-8-20 14:03

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可以买，吹逼价格是1000刀，估计正式价格会低一些

从放出的实机效果来看，比如ps2游戏，虽然分辨率从x5的2k提升到了4k，但画面区别很小

作者: miemiemk13 时间: 2023-8-20 14:13

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原帖由 @狂涂于 2023-8-20 14:03 发表
可以买，吹逼价格是1000刀，估计正式价格会低一些

从放出的实机效果来看，比如ps2游戏，虽然分辨率从x5的2k提升到了4k，但画面区别很小

感觉再低也要600刀…. 但是这价格买回来的效果有没有x5的两倍？

作者: qazqaz 时间: 2023-8-20 15:11

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谁简单说说这个是什么？就是个可以4k输出的Mister FPGA？还是说除了4k外还可以模拟PS、SS之后的机种？我看ls有提到ps2。

作者: 狂涂 时间: 2023-8-20 15:19

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比5x实际观感提升很有限，但确实是倍线到4k

这就是个可以把信号放大到4k分辨率的倍线器，内置了很多滤镜，优势在输入延迟很小，可以忽略不计

作者: 狂涂 时间: 2023-8-20 15:20

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黑狗也要出一个类似的，便宜不少。。。

作者: qazqaz 时间: 2023-8-20 15:46

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原帖由 @狂涂于 2023-8-20 15:19 发表
比5x实际观感提升很有限，但确实是倍线到4k

这就是个可以把信号放大到4k分辨率的倍线器，内置了很多滤镜，优势在输入延迟很小，可以忽略不计

原来是个倍线器，我还以为是模拟机。

作者: 粗腿 时间: 2023-8-20 17:11

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原帖由狂涂于 2023-8-20 15:20 发表
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黑狗也要出一个类似的，便宜不少。。。

黑狗是？？愿闻其详

作者: 狂涂 时间: 2023-8-20 18:24

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黑狗。。。
https://www.pixelfx.co/morph4k

本帖最后由狂涂于 2023-8-20 18:25 通过手机版编辑

作者: quigonjinn 时间: 2023-8-21 01:58

5k用着非常舒服，4K只会更好，而且终于加上了VGA，并且还支持15KHz，简直怀旧完美之作

留足1000刀预算，就等上市了

作者: 曾经的乌兹王 时间: 2023-8-21 08:23

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1000刀……是我疯了……

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