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微软公布今年内将发售的PS5 Slim?

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在微软提交的一份文件中提到了SIE的新型PS5发售计划,并指其售价将落在399.99美元

该文件的“主机市场当然包括任天堂”章节里,微软提到不能因为PS5标准版和XSX价格相近而把主机之争限定在XBOX和PS两者之间,毕竟同属本世代的XSS比任天堂的OLED版Switch还便宜50美元。出乎意料的是在本段结尾处微软提到SIE也将在年内推出PS5的新型号,PlayStation 5 Slim,定价和较便宜的数字版PS5一致为399美元。

https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.cand.413969/gov.uscourts.cand.413969.177.0_1.pdf

本帖最后由 Zechs 于 2023-7-5 10:09 通过手机版编辑


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原帖由 @爱猫咪的薛定谔  于 2023-7-5 10:01 发表
数字版本来就卖399啊…
“PlayStation likewise sells a less expensive Digital Edition for $399.99, and is
expected to release a PlayStation 5 Slim later this year at the same reduced price point”
是的,这里是指PS5产品线里“更便宜的”。不是和原来的数字版比。



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原帖由 @爱猫咪的薛定谔  于 2023-7-5 10:05 发表
原文说的不是数字版

本帖最后由 爱猫咪的薛定谔 于 202375 02:06 通过手机版编辑
文件里确实没明确Slim是不是数字版
发的时候自动带入之前看到的“光驱外置”的传闻了


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原帖由 @咸蛋小朋友  于 2023-7-5 10:17 发表
应该就是光驱可以外置的新版吧
真是年內發售的話 最快8月就會送交FCC審核了 那時應該就知道了

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原帖由 @DarthVadar  于 2023-7-5 10:36 发表
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微软怎么知道ps5卖不卖slim,文件是指内部有一些预测,原文也写的是指预计可能发售。

包括微软还expect了ps6会在2028上市,按照楼主的思路就是微软公布2028 ps6发售
要不先去查查assume和expect的区别?再查查  be expected to的意思? 拿中文回来推敲英文没法聊啊
btw, the price and launch window are also specified.

本帖最后由 Zechs 于 2023-7-5 10:59 通过手机版编辑

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#13
assume = “预测” as in“文件是指内部有一些预测,原文也写的是指预计可能发售。”
expected to happen 不是期待(预测)某事会发生,是已经清楚这件事将会发生,并有所准备。

The successors to the PS5 and the Xbox Series X's "expected starting period" is 2028 according to court documents revealed in the ongoing FTC legal battle.
同样的,微软不是在“猜”次世代交接期出现在2028之后,微软是这么计划的。

5th grade English lesson?

本帖最后由 Zechs 于 2023-7-5 11:27 通过手机版编辑

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原帖由 @DarthVadar  于 2023-7-5 11:32 发表
Your title used the word "announce"

Microsoft expects the next console generation to begin no earlier than 2028.

According to your logic it should be titled as "Microsoft announces that the release of PS6 will take place before 2028" which clearly is not true.
According to the definition in Merriam-Webster, "announce" is "to make known publicly", regardless of the truth or falsity. It works in both English and Mandarin.

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原帖由 @DarthVadar  于 2023-7-5 11:39 发表
显然The Verge的英文母语编辑也只是5th grade的英语水平了,居然认为microsoft的expect只是prediction

Microsoft thinks we’re getting a PS5 Slim model later this year that might be priced at $399.99. The software giant is currently waiting a ruling in the FTC v. Microsoft hearing and as part of the case Microsoft has filed documents which reveal it thinks a PS5 Slim is on the way “later this year.” Here’s exactly what Microsoft says:

PlayStation likewise sells a less expensive Digital Edition for $399.99, and is expected to release a PlayStation 5 Slim later this year at the same reduced price point.

Insider Gaming reported last year that Sony was preparing for a PS5 with a detachable disc drive for September 2023. The console is rumored to be sold on its own without the disc drive or in a bundle, which suggests Sony could be considering making the slimmer version of the PS5 the default. This would allow people to pick with or without a bundled drive, with the option to add a drive later on if needed. Currently you have to either buy a $399 PS5 Digital Edition or the $499 PS5 with a disc drive, but there’s no option to connect an optional drive at a later date.

Microsoft’s prediction also has a footnote that says “Sony is also anticipated to release a handheld version of PlayStation 5 later this year for under $300,” which isn’t fully accurate. Sony is planning a handheld device later this year that can run PS5 games by streaming them over WiFi from a PS5 console. Microsoft doesn’t cite any thirdparty sources for the PS5 slim timing or pricing in its findings of fact and conclusion of law document.

If Microsoft’s knowledge of Sony’s planned PlayStation hardware is accurate, it wouldn’t be the first time we’ve seen secrets spill in FTC v. Microsoft. Last week a confidential Sony document wasn’t properly redacted, leading to details spilling about the margins Sony shares with publishers, its Call of Duty revenues, and even the cost of developing ...
It is Microsoft who "believes" that PS5 Slim will land by the end of this year and made it official on papers committed to the court.
Discussions are only based on facts not predictions in court as you may have already known, otherwise Microsoft could just flood "predictions" like PS5 would go $299 in near future which is obviously inevitable.
The reason why that editor took them as predictions is simply that he was not buying what Microsoft claimed in that document since no third-party sources are showed to endorse them.  
You can easily find a lot of reports that took it seriously.  
https://earlygame.com/gaming/ps5-slim-release-price
https://insider-gaming.com/playstation-5-slim/
https://gamerant.com/microsoft-ftc-document-ps5-slim/

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You can tell the difference between court documents and documents committed to court, right?
You can comprehend the sentence "Discussions are only based on facts not predictions in court", right?
Basically, what you tried to say is that Microsoft was just assuming a new model PS5 would come out and put that on papers to persuade court of that there is also a competition under $400 including Nintendo. If Microsoft's claim is entirely based on assumption, it should go "Nintendo is releasing successor of Switch priced at $399".  Both you and I would know that it will end up as a ridiculous joke.
Again, if Microsoft was just speculating things they have no clues, why media bothered to follow.
Enjoy it.
https://kotaku.com/playstation-5-pro-slim-microsoft-xbox-series-s-x-sony-1850604418

本帖最后由 Zechs 于 2023-7-5 14:51 通过手机版编辑

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Just answering the question that if Microsoft was "assuming" there is a new model PS5 coming out this year.
not interesting to discuss when and how to use the word "announce".
Again, based on courtroom ethics, media reactions and English grammar, it's nonsense to believe that Microsoft just bet on the upcoming new model PS5 with details like price and launch time.
BTW you can keep changing subjects as you like.

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原帖由 @Nemo_theCaptain  于 2023-7-5 15:03 发表
跟PS5抢不过产能罢了,而且微软自己也在靠XSS这个本质上非次世代的玩意混数量
最重要的是微软上个月已经明确说了本世代自己不出半代升级,甚至表示XSX就是半代升级
这一点上我比较赞同杠神的观点 无论出于什么理由(价格劣势or全球汇率影响or市场景气or普及XGP)XSX的出货数量更大的可能是主观上被压低的

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You lectured that "expected to release" means they are nothing but some assumptions,
as in "微软怎么知道ps5卖不卖slim,文件是指内部有一些预测,原文也写的是指预计可能发售。"
which is totally ridiculous and even a 5th grade student could get that nuance.   
And for a thousandth time, no shit was never given to who or when or how to use the word "announce" and it has nothing to do with the so-called "原文也写的是指预计可能发售。", period.
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