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[新闻] 厂商是婊子,用户是嫖客,我来分析一下微软的野心

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原帖由 爱你一棒陲 于 2013-5-23 22:42 发表
微软已经放话要先丢3000台服务器出来给live 3.0开路。而且windows Azure已经托管了不少LIVE游戏的服务,例如halo4,已经在87个国家和地区提供云服务,上海今年8月还要开一个。
是30w台。。。


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原帖由 west2046 于 2013-5-23 22:31 发表
我觉得成败在于盈利模式,游戏界最早是卖主机卖配件卖游戏盈利,后来发展出亏主机卖游戏盈利,现在又出现卖游戏卖服务的盈利模式

Will是卖主机卖配件卖游戏盈利,但Will所谓的败也就是后期盈利乏力,在潮流形成了 ...
服务器估计直接用azure的,反正datacenter多了去了。。。
sony要么自己买多了积灰要不买少了吃鳖要不租亚马逊的。。



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原帖由 killmesoftly 于 2013-5-23 19:46 发表
就米国机顶盒这个市场

请预测下XBOX ONE准备花几天先干掉Roku?

roku 2012年才卖掉150w台。。。就不要拿出来说了。。


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原帖由 killmesoftly 于 2013-5-23 20:40 发表



你还没看明白吗?

进入这个市场以后的商业模式要改变的

用户买断设备只是一种选择,设备租赁的年费模式将成为另一个选择

对于运营商来说,是送399的XBOX ONE还是99的Roku?在我看来不用选择
99的XO和99的roku我看也不用选了。。。

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原帖由 讴歌123 于 2013-5-23 21:21 发表
posted by wap, platform: HTC (8X)

早就进了,不过苹果还没发力,先做Apple TV玩玩。Google TV暂时一泡污,Nexus Q之后没下文,不过以后肯定要跟Android整合
ms在客厅最大的敌人就是apple,X1是最好的桥头堡。。
手机半死不活,平版暂时还要发力,客厅再失守的话只剩萎缩的pc市场,ms就只能转型企业市场了。。。

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原帖由 Oldman 于 2013-5-23 22:01 发表
另外,本代主机出生期太过尴尬。云技术等可以改变整个业界形态的技术正在蓄势待发,而新主机却等不到新技术的运用就要被迫出场。也许,新主机上市没一两年,就会被突然爆发的新技术远远地抛在后面,那时就彻底落后于 ...
所以软件架构其实比硬件更关键,毕竟要至少要适应5年后的情况,不然不会"Dave Cutler, the father of Windows NT, moved to the Xbox team from the Windows Azure team a couple of years ago. At the same time, Hoi Vo also moved from Azure to Xbox. Vo was the director of OS/hypervisor on Windows Azure."

zdnet的 Mary Jo Foley之前报道过xbox部门现在ms内部的地位和重要度比任何时候都高。

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原帖由 west2046 于 2013-5-23 23:39 发表

上海那个Live能用吗?
不知道啊,回头找人去打听打听。。
不过在云方面也只有Amazon和ms靠谱了,不然apple在自己的datacenter起来前icloud不会一半托管在azure一半托管在AWS

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原帖由 tntforbrain 于 2013-5-23 23:42 发表


现实情况是,Vmware市场份额越来越大。

越来越多的客户选择x86服务器已经不太在乎品牌和x86服务器的特点了。

4年前,还都是普遍的大型机,小型机,x86服务器。

现在,很少有客户不用Vmware。

自己在 ...
请教下Hyper-V和VMware之间的情况?

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The third screen: Will all Windows 8 apps run on Microsoft's Xbox One?

Summary: MS CRM on your Xbox One? Will any and all Windows 8 and Windows Phone 8 apps be allowed to run on the just-announced Xbox One?


Mary Jo Foley

By Mary Jo Foley for All About Microsoft | May 22, 2013 -- 18:13 GMT (11:13 PDT)
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Is it really so crazy to think that users will be able to run Microsoft CRM on their Xboxes in the not-so-distant future?
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After Microsoft's May 21 Xbox One reveal -- which included information about the coming Xbox One operating system that is based on Microsoft's Hyper-V hypervisor technology -- some developers and users were left wondering whether Microsoft is going to enable any Metro-Style Windows 8 or Windows RT application to run on the next Xbox.

Microsoft officials aren't talking about the Xbox One developer story yet; it sounds like they are planning/hoping to hold off until the Build 2013 conference in late June to share more details on that. But here's what I've gleaned from talking to my sources about this.

As we learned yesterday, the Xbox One OS includes a host OS, which is a heavily modified Hyper-V hypervisor; and two partitions. One partition, called the "Exclusive" partition, is a custom virtual machine (VM) that is designed just for games. It is designed to give games on the Xbox One complete control on everything from memory management to storage, I hear. While games can be paused or switched, only one game can run at a time in this VM. (If Microsoft steps up its support for indie games on Xbox One, those games are going to run in this partition.)

The other piece of the new OS the "Shared" partition. It's called shared because multiple applications can share this VM. According to one of my contacts, this VM is based on the Windows 8 "core," which means the kernel, file system, graphics stack, networking stack and security elements. Like the Windows core that is shared with Windows RT and Windows Phone 8, the Shared partition core is based on the WinRT application programming interface (API). One of my sources said internally it's actually called WinXRT, the same way that the Windows Phone implementation of WinRT is known internally as WinPRT.

However, the similarities between the Windows environments seem to end there. On top of the Xbox One Shared Partiion core, the Xbox team created a custom UI for Xbox One. Microsoft supposedly isn't going to allow just anyone to write apps that can run here; devs will have to be chosen and invited, the way that they are now on Xbox 360. And they're not going to be inviting Salesforce or Oracle or even the Microsoft SharePoint team to write apps to run here. More likely are things like Netflix and Skype and other media/companion/social kinds of apps.

Core first-party, Microsoft apps like Xbox Music and Video will run in the Shared Partition, too. But these won't just be the same Windows 8/Windows RT versions of these apps; instead, they'll be Xbox-customized ones that will make use of chunks of the Windows 8/Windows RT complements' code, according to my source. (There need to be customized to work with the Xbox controllers and Kinect.)

I'd think as Microsoft continues to add more features and functionality to Windows 8, starting with Windows 8.1 (Blue), some of these security/reliability/performance-focused features will find their way back into the Shared Partition Core. So yeah... don't be looking for the new Start Button or a way to boot straight to desktop on your Xbox One, even when these options come to Windows 8.1.

So at Build 2013, I do expect Microsoft to play up the message that there's increasing a common core codebase on Windows Phone, Windows PCs and tablets and the coming Xbox. There will no doubt be more on the increasingly common developer platform for all of these screens. This year won't be the year when there is just one shared developer platform across these screens (even if Microsoft officials go so far to claim this is the case). Nor will there be a unified Windows Store for Windows 8, Windows RT, Windows Phone 8 and Xbox One this year.

It's taking a while to turn the ship and more closely align the release cadences across all the teams that develop anything that involves a flavor of Windows. Yet slowly and surely, Microsoft's moving in that direction.
贴篇有意思的文章。。
http://www.zdnet.com/the-third-s ... box-one-7000015757/

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借一句木马Elop的话,这年头还在只玩产品不看ecosystem的都是耍流氓。
这年头能玩的起的也就ms,apple,google这3家了。
sony拆分娱乐部门和老任一起转型做内容提供商也是条出路。
不然即使ps4赢了这代主机大战到头来还是死路一条。。

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