拿一个增加了50人的例子来说明增加了6~700人的现状，我想这种有才的例证法我是学不会

不说了，您赢了！

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原帖由 战神blog 于 2008-5-9 12:49 PM 发表


哈哈,牛皮破了来一句那又怎么样,恩,不怎么样.

只过让大家看看你的脸皮厚度,把美国11月销量说成是美国累积销量.

可惜，您没有任何米国销量高于这个数字的证据，只能以理论推导之。

这种推导论的精神力是杀不死你的对手的。也说明不了问题。

只有您一个人自作多情而已。

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原帖由 马甲雷 于 2008-5-9 12:51 发表
拿一个增加了50人的例子来说明增加了6~700人的现状，我想这种有才的例证法我是学不会

不说了，您赢了！

和一个只会不懂装懂,连gta4基本状况都没有理解的人谈gta4的开发,我必输无疑啊

谁说的，面对以50人推广600人之伟大逻辑，我怎么可能取胜呢？:D

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原帖由 马甲雷 于 2008-5-9 12:53 发表


可惜，您没有任何米国销量高于这个数字的证据，只能以理论推导之。

这种推导论的精神力是杀不死你的对手的。也说明不了问题。

只有您一个人自作多情而已。

哈哈,莫非FF12美国就卖了1个月,之后就全部下架了么.

马甲雷果然达到了新的境界

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原帖由 战神blog 于 2008-5-9 12:55 PM 发表


哈哈,莫非FF12美国就卖了1个月,之后就全部下架了么.

马甲雷果然达到了新的境界

没有全部下架

惜你无法证明

收工:D

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原帖由 马甲雷 于 2008-5-9 12:54 发表
谁说的，面对以50人推广600人之伟大逻辑，我怎么可能取胜呢？:D

不要闹内补完行不行?
我什么时候推过,只是举个例子而已,无非是因为暂时未找到halo和halo2具体开发名册
总比你连gta4基本情况都不知道就在说成本上升是因为跨平台正常吧?
问你啊,dq1到dq8成本应该上升多少啊?

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原帖由 csish 于 2008-5-9 12:57 PM 发表

不要闹内补完行不行?
我什么时候推过,只是举个例子而已,无非是因为暂时未找到halo和halo2具体开发名册
总比你连gta4基本情况都不知道就在说成本上升是因为跨平台正常吧?
问你啊,dq1到dq8成本应该上升多少啊?

是啊，你拿这个例子不就是要说明增长人数和是否跨平台无关么。因为光环增加了50人不是因为跨平台，所以gta4增加600人也绝不是为了跨平台。是不是这个意思啊？我说错了没？

跨平台导致成本上升是常事。你连移植和跨平台都分不清你还说什么？
又跑到dq去了，好，dq1是86年作品，dq8是04年作品，相隔18年。你要能证明gta3、4因相隔十八年导致成本激增我马上认输，怎么样？

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原帖由 马甲雷 于 2008-5-9 13:02 发表


是啊，你拿这个例子不就是要说明增长人数和是否跨平台无关么。因为光环增加了50人不是因为跨平台，所以gta4增加600人也绝不是为了跨平台。是不是这个意思啊？我说错了没？

跨平台导致成本上升是常事。你连移植 ...

gta3是01年,gta4是08年,隔了七年,如果套到dq上就是差不多18年成本为6倍,来来来,说说dq8的成本有没有dq1的六倍啊

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原帖由 csish 于 2008-5-9 01:06 PM 发表

gta3是01年,gta4是08年,隔了七年,如果套到dq上就是差不多18年成本为6倍,来来来,说说dq8的成本有没有dq1的六倍啊

先生，先不要露怯了。01年，ps2在米国才卖了多少？

Grand Theft Auto 3

◎ 制作公司：Rockstar North
◎ 发行时间：2002年5月

而且真正创造销量奇迹的还不是它，而是：

Grand Theft Auto 3：Vice City（gta3资料片：罪恶都市）
◎ 制作公司：Rockstar North
◎ 发行时间：2003年5月

ps2版达到1700万销量


大阁下，2001年的gta3，我想收集一套，您能告诉我网上哪里有人卖么？莫非是限定版？

就您这样还跟我论gta系列哪？先去补习一下数学，搞清楚年份再出来聒噪吧。

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原帖由 马甲雷 于 2008-5-9 13:13 发表


先生，先不要露怯了。01年，ps2在米国才卖了多少？

Grand Theft Auto 3

◎ 制作公司：Rockstar North
◎ 发行时间：2002年5月

而且真正创造销量奇迹的还不是它，而是：

Grand Theft Auto 3：Vice ...

总比你拿ff12美国11月销量冒充累计销量好.

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原帖由 csish 于 2008-5-9 01:11 PM 发表
halo1的
Project Lead Jason Jones
Lead Producer Hamilton Chu
Producer Rick Ryan
Programer Chris Butcher
Programer Bernie Freidin
Programer Charlie Gough
Programer Mat Noguchi
Programer M ...

也没多多少啊，我还以为多了几百人呢……

对了，你搞清楚gta3哪一年出的么？

原来6年等于18年，我们住在时间与精神的房子里呢:D

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原帖由 战神blog 于 2008-5-9 01:14 PM 发表


总比你拿ff12美国11月销量冒充累计销量好.

？什么东西？能吃吗？

唉,不懂装懂的人真是可笑又可怜...
连gta3 01年发售都不知道